Oh god, yes the spiders and flies. I Hadn't forgotten the class istinction, but figured those we branded (unfairly) as flies might still take offense. I for one will admit to my participation in the despicable and foolish act of black marker vandalism of the Willard Hall elevators. I had two coconspirators, who will have to speak up for themselves. Ahhh the days of carefree mispent youth. Kendall